I can summarize what killed the charismatic movement today in two words:
"Contain" and "It"
The words need to be considered separately, and the
it needs to be considered first because it is far and away the most important problem, and the
contain often springs from the
it.
What is clear and most heart-rending is that we have looked at God as an
it. We've called Him "the anointing" or "the glory", and we've said
it is on certain leaders, and we've clamored all around the world to get more of
it from them. God wants intimacy with us, but we're still going the indirect route, looking for "more of Him" (notice that makes Him an
it again) instead of being intimate with Him and growing together from there.
it also proves that we have been looking for results. We've been enraptured by miracles, by signs and by anything apparently supernatural. It doesn't take a psychologist to realize that we seriously feel that our faith is invalid without miraculous signs and wonders. God really does do signs and wonders, but our faith isn't to be anchored on them. Signs and wonders didn't keep ancient Israel grounded in faith at all - they went up and down like the waves.
It's natural and human for us to feel something's wrong when we look at events in the book of Acts and compare them to our current situation. But I think what we need to do is surrender that feeling, that need, to God. More often than not we still look for an external proof to validate our internal faith. But by chasing signs and wonders, we've avoided facing that brokenness that God meant us to face - that part of us that feels like something is wrong, and then surrendering it to Him and accepting His answer in brokenness.
We're subconsciously afraid that if we surrender that need to Him, He still may not produce signs and wonders. He might say "no" or have us wait. So we generally leave Him out of the picture. We construct teaching principles (that is, theology) which say that it is
always His will to heal, to do signs and wonders, etc. We cut Him out and reduce things to an equation.
Your Faith + This Principle = Miraculous Results
The bottom line is that we don't want God sometimes. We often want what God can do, and if the results don't show up, we calculate that it means we didn't have enough faith in the principles.
The other word,
contain is easier recognized and more obvious. But that
containing action springs out of the
it. As many have noted, we try to contain and keep whatever God is doing. But the last 20 years or so should tell us a lot about this. Since Toronto and Brownsville, a pattern has emerged and we've come to expect it (expect God to do the same stuff)... manifestations, large meetings, revival, outpourings, and conferences we fly across the country or world to see (again, in the hopes of catching
it and taking
it back with us!).
In haunting parallel, we're seeing a re-enactment of the medieval rush for relics. Wherever God seems to have been, we rush there. And whatever He did or seems to do there is contained and preserved - a holy relic for others to visit and come receive an impartation from.
Just like Catholic statues or Orthodox icons, we've made "images" in the charismatic church. We've longed for them, chased them, gazed at them, praised them, prized them, advertised them, evangelized them and merchandized them. We've mistaken the shadows of God for God.
There is always a danger, of course, when we try to contain anything God does, we don't allow God to be Himself. He may want to withdraw. He may want to do something different. We've got to ask Him. And when we shut off part of Him, we open the door to other things. If you pray to a Mary statue long enough, her eyes may start to bleed for you. If you look to an
it too long,
it may answer back. If you seek to keep
it (i.e., "revival") prolonged and maintain
it, whatever the signs of
it you wanted may stick around. So you'll get your
it, but
it may not be God.
The only way for the movement to continue is to admit to itself that it has died, and to repent for not allowing God to kill it a lot sooner!
Time to come back into the Light.
Ramone is an artist, teacher, pilgrim and worshiper living in Osaka, Japan with his wife and children. He has been painting prophetic art for Jesus since 2005, which can be seen on his blog Art For Jesus - in Japan and on Facebook. He is currently starting a healing-art ministry in Japan and has felt God call him to pray for people in darker, neglected areas of his city.
It would be easier for us if we simply called it an "awakening" -- if we said that the Charismatic Movement was instead an awakening to the present-day movings & ministry of the Holy Spirit, that after a long slumber, we realized we could still talk to Him and actually HEAR Him talk back to us, and live in His presence, and that because of that waking-up, we'll never be the same again. That would be far better, don't you think? An awakening.
But a "movement" is a little more troublesome to pin down or define. In the world, movements begin and end. No movements are forever. The very nature of the word betrays this, I think. Something was still, and it began moving. It will come to a stop, pause, or change of direction in time. It may even be buried or go back to where it was before.
But if we say that the charismatic "movement" was the Holy Spirit's movement, then we're instantly presented with the problem: Namely that, well, actually, He never stopped moving! He's been going and going, and will keep on going and going, whether we acknowledge Him or not, whether we're aware of or awake to what intimacy we can have with Him or not. He's like that. That's God's spirit. That's His grace. He lifts up Christ among us, even if we are so foolish as to think that He doesn't speak like He did in the days of Scripture. He knows better, but He'll sometimes let us say or believe such ignorant things because He's firstly out for the glory of God the Son, not for the glory of God the Spirit. In the end the truth will come out, and He knows many would/will awake to (re-)discovering deeper intimacy with Him. But He is not hard-pressed about it. He is God, after all.
For us, however, we are more hard-pressed and anxious. When we have a good thing, we want it to keep going. We want fervency to last, we want excitement to last. We don't like changes of seasons! We resist the way of nature itself, even if God designed it that way. And so I think when we talk of the Charismatic Movement as a "movement", we are not speaking really of the "move" of the Holy Spirit, but rather of our effort to perpetuate His moving (and awareness of His moving). When the Spirit started something among people, we came in and through the arm of flesh tried to keep things going. I think that's what "movement" amounts to.
If we say "awakening", however, we keep our focus better, I think. We realize that God is God, He is sovereign, and He is always at work whether we're awake or sleeping. He's simply waking a lot of us up. And now that we're awake, we don't have to continue being woken up, but rather walk in the daylight, walk in the light. It would make no sense to spend your 12 hours of daylight trying to re-capture the feeling of waking up, you know what I mean? How would it be if you tried to stay in bed all day and keep the feeling of that moment of waking up? (And how would it be if you invited other people to experience that same thing and felt that all people needed to be there, trying to re-live the waking-up?)
I think that's kind of where the Charismatic Movement got stuck. Its people wanted a "movement" when in fact what God was doing was an "awakening" instead.
To stay in bed and try to keep re-experiencing the waking moment is not healthy. Because whenever you climb back in bed, there's the risk that you'll fall asleep again. And maybe in order to re-live the waking-up, maybe you even *need* to re-enter sleep or half-sleep. By merely trying to re-live the waking-up, we're putting ourselves in a position to fall back asleep. What God wanted to wake us up to was deeper intimacy and relationship with Him. Get out of bed, walk with Him in the daylight (before night is upon us in the world).
"Don't seek the experience, seek Jesus." Too many charismatics keep seeking experiences; if they had sought Jesus instead, He would give them the experiences He knows they need.
Currently many conservative Christians, charismatics and non-charismatics, are moving back liturgy, incense, candles, etc., in some cases joining Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. I am afraid this is another form of "seeking the experience." Different experience than the charismatic form, but still a matter of religious activity rather than directly walking with Jesus.
"Unlike inhabitation, there is no call for revival found anywhere in Scripture. The Church, quite simply, should never need reviving. Revival is not about getting people saved; revival is about the Church coming back to her original purpose before God. I think its very sad that so many of us have prayed and longed for revival- it means the Church is a long way from what God wants us to be…"
i believe our cravings for manifestations begin with our inherent desire to be amazed, surprised and astonished- which God in His kindness obliges occasionally. Our Western culture has us trained to believe that bigger is always better- which you can see all too well in our christian programming. Big hair, big make-up, big emotions.
I agree that what God is doing is more than a movement, and wish you would have posted your thoughts on that at the beginning of this article. either way the "movements" or "moves" of God were destined to go into the wilderness as that is the proving ground of all His sons and daughters.
thanks for your thoughts and honesty-
peace
You wrote....
`But by chasing signs and wonders, we've avoided facing that brokenness that God meant us to face - that part of us that feels like something is wrong, and then surrendering it to Him and accepting His answer in brokenness.'
It's scarey to feel "not in control."
"Surrender" is a dirty word to alot of folks. Surrender to "WHAT"? You can't SEE God...or Jesus...or the Holy Spirit. But you CAN see the Bible, church, relics, icons. Remember, for those of you who need these things, that they are man-made. Yes, even what is IN the Bible has been decided by men; stuff has been left OUT, misinterpreted...
There IS ONLY ONE THING on planet Earth that was not created by humans. It is an image of the full front and full back of Jesus' crucified body, that He Supernaturally left upon His burial shroud-cloth.
When I was 28, I bought a copy of the face part of that image, framed it and put it in the front room, glancing at it many times in a day, as I passed from front room to kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, back-door. Did not do any rituals, etc involving it. It put me in AWE of Him, in WONDERMENT, rising (not falling) IN LOVE with Him.....but, most of all, constantly examining my CONSCIENCE and, in my consciousness, giving to Christ that which I felt/knew to displease Him. I never believed that that picture had any "magical" powers. But it had a profound effect on my conscience...and my relationship with Jesus. It reminded me that He was doing for me just what I had asked Him to do for me when I was 9 - help me grow up so I would not become as miserable as my out-of-control, violent parents....and SO MUCH MORE!!! If I had not had that picture, it would have been very easy for me to slip into depression and stay there (at being married to a loveless man).
A movement involves a group of people, trying to "control" for something.
An awakening involves one person, surrendered to God's control of his/her spiritual life.
True, Phil (comment 3) - Greed for spiritual experiences is still greed, but probably the most dangerous type of all.
Michael (in comment 6)- yes, the wilderness....
no entertainment, nothing to be fascinated with, "stripped down" to just "God and me."
False teachers like Copeland, Hagin, and all their clones took the movement over. They do not teach anything even remotely resembling Biblical doctrine, and it's swallowed whole. One the core of any movement is false and corrupt, it will die, and I it's beyond arguing that the vast majority of the TV guys are just that!
I'm going to link to this article Friday on my blog, because I think you've said some important things here.
Thanks! I would have probably put those thoughts into the article if I had thought of them when I was doing the article! But it was what bro.Foster said that triggered what I said afterwards. I sometimes call that the "ping-pong" effect. God gives one person something, and then the Spirit in another person responds, and it can go back and forth. I think that's what Paul described being done "in the church" in that almost wholly-neglected way of "doing church" mentioned in 1st Corinthians 14. *smile*
To Sister V:
Thanks for your compliments. Re: the shroud. Sister, I don't know what made you lose faith in His word, but His Spirit is well-able to preserve His words beyond our attempts to screw them up. You don't know how powerful His grace is! And when you take the risk of standing on them, you get FILLED with His Spirit! And then, in fact, His Spirit brings you *closer* to Him than by merely seeing His image! Because He makes His *home* inside of you! And He talks to you, and you talk to Him, and He is in you, and you are in Him. It goes so wonderfully beyond seeing His image. That is why He said to the disciples that "it is for your good that I am going away", because the ministry of the Holy Spirit brings a fullness that we could not have received even while He walked among us. He was not content to have us look upon His image -- no, He wanted to be *closer* than that! He wanted to be IN us, inside us! Dare to ask Him for this! Dare to take the leap of faith in His word, in His promise of this! And thus know Him deeper and more fully than you had ever imagined possible! Bless you in Jesus, sister!
To Skeptik:
I don't think this is the proper forum for what you've brought up. But I'll briefly mention that I once thought as you did, and so did folks like Dostoevsky, C.S. Lewis, and countless more individuals.
To Carole Turner:
Yes, of course!
To Louie:
Thanks. I think the "abandoning of truth" however generally has subtle beginnings, which are most often found in non-"charismatic" churches as well. The difference is that in charismatic churches they become magnified. And a further difference is that in charismatic churches, people *generally* are more open to the spiritual realm. *Generally* in traditional denominations (esp. in reformed), people tend to be more intellecutally and doctrinally-oriented. However, in countries like China and continents like Africa, the native cultures had a greater awareness of the reality of the spiritual realm. That is why in China the gospel really took off on its own feet when Western missionaries were kicked out by the Communists. The Western missionaries had tried evangelizing in the Western way -- more "head" oriented -- and it had failed to connect with the heart of the people, which was more spiritual. When the missionaries were gone, the Spirit was able to connect the gospel with the reality & awareness of the spiritual in the culture. It doesn't take away the need for sound doctrine, but the real truth is that in the West, we have a hard, hard time acknowledging the reality of the spiritual and are far more comfortable in doctrinal and "rational" areas that we can sort out with our minds (as evidenced by Skeptik's brief comment here).
But what I'm driving towards here, however, is that in "charismatic" churches there is *generally* a greater openness to the reality of the spiritual. And if the heart and doctrine slips in a subtle or minor way, the ramifications of it are greater than if the same slip happens in a traditional or head-oriented denomination, because the latter would have less openness to spiritual things. In other words, the "door" of the latter groups is not as widely open to the spiritual as it is in charismatic. This has both positives and negatives. In one sense, you could say that the latter groups are then better-protected, but this is not true at all actually, because being intellectual-based is not a protection against judgment, arrogance, pride, and other masquerading spirits posing as "intellect" or unloving attitudes claiming to "defend the truth". Often the anti-charismatic policers are in just as perilous a position as people in the extreme-charismatic chasing after modern-day relics. In the extreme-charismatics I find dearth of the gospel of Life; but in the anti-charismatics, I find an equal dearth of Life, but in the name of "truth". I have to admit that at least the extreme-charismatics are just hungry and led-astray. The anti's, however, have found their fulfillment and "life" in searching for heresies -- which is no life at all.
I haven't read much of Copeland at all, but I've read one or two things Kenneth Hagin wrote. No, make that just one thing. It wasn't a bad little book at all. But he was a classic illustration of two problems that start(ed) as minor doctrinal breeches, and actually arose from things in the heart before that, which could later blossom into bigger problems. Hagin's were "prosperity" and the word of faith movement.
As a strange final note, I'll add that when I was among the modern-day "apostolic-prophetic movement" and so forth, I learned more from people's experiences with God and what His Spirit did in their lives (mind you, there are a lot of problems, but He is still very active because well, there's FAITH in Him, and wherever there is faith in Him, He is there and can and does answer at His will). But when the teachers there tried to extrapolate "principles" from Scripture or their experiences, they were off the mark. Not necessarily blatant incorrectness (although sometimes!), but just that they reeked of relicism or simply *missing* what the Lord was trying to tell them. I've seen people actually *misinterpret* dreams & visions the Lord had showed them, because they had their rallying cries of their movement, etc., and they interpreted in line with what made everyone feel like we were "going forward" or "to the next level", etc. So I've begun just love when people share their testimonies & experiences with the Lord, and take with a grain of salt whatever principles or "teaching" they speak afterwards. :)
For example, if we equate that "it is always His will to heal", we end up taking some Scriptures as gospel (so to speak) and then ignoring or "explaining away" other Scriptures that don't seem to agree. And the bottom line is that we subconsciously want such a principle because it seems *easier* than actually doing the "hard work" of simply *asking God* what His will is in the situation, and then going through the flesh-killing part: waiting on Him for His answer. We want to cut that hassle out, so we look for principles. It's essentially the same inner motivation that makes us crave "law" instead of "Spirit". We want an easy road-map that we can follow. "Here, God, tell me what to do and I'll take it from here." We want to hold the map, so to speak. So we unconsciously prefer Him to be more like an ATM machine than a guide who will walk with us and talk with us.
You are so dear and precious to my heart. I look forward to the day we can sit, face to face, and share. Jubilee is looking forward to playing with your children, she loves "babies" anyone smaller than her is a baby.
I am so proud of you. This is beautiful and the follow-ups are well thought out and articulated. Not just you but most of the other folks, too. Thank you for sharing. I am looking forward to regular contributions.
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